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GAP Beginner Tutorial Set

#61 User is offline   ccbarr 

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Posted 08 September 2007 - 05:35 AM

Ivan hi and thank you for trying out the tutorial. Also thank you for your valuable input. Let me respond to your concerns:

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I think it would be better to mention in the tut that it must be white background


I just corrected that portion of the tutorial and thank you for noticing and informing me so I could correct the error.

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When I open the video>path, the source image/layer shows as Untitled of course and not a .png as on the illustration, because you don't say anywhere to save something as .png image. It is disturbing, it took time to check if I did something wrong. No, I didn't untill there.


Yes, if you look at the Move Path images in the tutorial, you will indeed see box2.png-1266 and then a forward slash (/), followed by the Layer name and an ID number (yours will be unique to your Gimp application) for example, in the first Move Path window shown it shows:

box2.png-1266/Box1-11004

Again, your confusion is understandable, since your results will not be exactly the same. I named the image with the box layers box2.png so that I could save the various images to add to the tutorial. That was an oversight on my part. It would have been better for me to take screenshots of Move Path window with the Layers before naming that particular image. I will try to clarify that issue and update the images. My apologies.

Let me provide a bit more in depth detail about that particular issue. That section of the Move Path window is called Source Image/Layer . This means it will include first the Image name (thus the Image part - my image is arbitrarily named box2.png since I was using it for screenshots for the tutorial) followed by a unique ID number. It is then followed by a forward slash (/) and then the Layer name (hence the Layer portion, in the above paragraph, it is Box1 followed by a unique ID number which varies for each person running the software).


Finally, if you have no colors, make sure that your images are in RGB Mode and not Greyscale or Indexed:

Found under Image | Mode in your image window.

Again, I appreciate the feedback, even when things do not go right. That way, I can attempt to explain the problem and eventually correct it for the tutorial. It is important to me that others be able to follow the tutorial. I'm very glad that you are someone who pays attention to details. If you notice any other problems with the tutorial, please feel free to post them as well. That is the spirit of open source in my opinion. Just as with coding, one person may make the code open source, but then others can make corrections to improve the code for everyone, so too with my tutorials. Again, my apologies for any confusion, thanks for trying the tutorial and hope these explanations help some. :h:
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#62 User is offline   Ivan 

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Posted 08 September 2007 - 09:54 AM

Thank you ccbar for your long and instructive answer, I shall make it again.


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And now something to the webmaster:

1 Whenever I tried, I couldn't load an image. I could browse it, could see a thumbnail, and than upload - vanished. What can I do?
2 It would be easier to find a comment If we had tutorial first, comments after. Just in this topic the comments don't interrupt the tutorial, but there are some longer tutorials with a few comment hanging under a part of tutorial on every side. This is rift in the lute (I hope it is the right expression, I found it in the dictionary) both when I follow the tut, but mostly when I search a comment. Scroll down, next page, scroll down again... Wouldn't be better to have tutorial topic and just connected to every tutorials a comment-topic? If you keep this Post Reply to Topic, every comments would submitted automatically to the belonging coment-topic
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#63 User is offline   Arael 

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Posted 26 September 2007 - 06:16 PM

Nice Tut :l:

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#64 User is offline   ccbarr 

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Posted 28 September 2007 - 03:14 PM

Arael,

Thank you. Hope the tutorial helped you.

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Posted 06 October 2007 - 02:22 AM

For the second tutorial (and possibly the third one), I'm having a bad time with the Fill with selection part, and gives me this kind of image, and I don't know what I did wrong. Can you guys help me? Thanks.

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#66 User is offline   ccbarr 

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Posted 08 October 2007 - 01:21 AM

mimi_girl hi,

Can you explain a bit more about the kind of trouble you are having with being told to fill the selection? There are multiple ways to fill a selection with color. I indicated two in the tutorial. One way is to use the Bucket Fill Tool and the other is to just drag the color from the main Gimp toolbar window over to the selection.

Since you said that you had a problem in part 2, did you make sure to do Alpha to Selection as I indicated in the tutorial?

If there is something that you don't understand in the tutorial, please let me know. I can try to explain it to you to try to help you out. One general recommendation that I have is to please follow the tutorial slowly and thoroughly. Learning to use GAP takes some time, and if you miss a step in the tutorial, it will definitely affect your results.

Other than that, if you are confused about something, I will do my best to help you out.

Thank you for trying out the tutorial. :h:
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Posted 21 October 2007 - 08:31 AM

Hi, ccbarr, great Tut, It took me some time to make it work. Stage One is a "doddle" but I got lost trying to add the second stage. I kept getting an Empty Source /Image layer and was unable to add the new layer. Later on it seemed to work. Now for some heavy experimenting with some of the options. Thank you!

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Posted 21 October 2007 - 06:32 PM

wbool63 thank you for trying the tutorial. Glad it did finally work for you. Looks like you are progressing nicely given the animation you posted. :h:
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Posted 09 November 2007 - 06:41 PM

I'm having a little problem getting my animation to work. I complete the first several steps, all the way to the Anim Preview and everything looks fine. I close it out and click "don't save", then I click OK on the Move Path window. As the window processes, I get this error message

"Procedure 'gimp-image-delete' has been called with an invalid ID for argument 'image'. Most likely a plug-in is trying to work on an image that doesn't exist any longer."

Can someone tell me what I'm doing wrong?


And I would like add, since it is talking about a invalid ID, the Source Image/Layer is giving me this to select from "Box1.xcf-8/Box1-22". Shouldn't my ID number be different?

Edit: Never mind, I was able to fix my problem, but thanks for the tutorial. :h:
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Posted 07 December 2007 - 12:01 AM

great tuturial
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 06:39 PM

Is there a way to make the impact point opaque? I've tried with one more and one less frame, but the main frame is the first beginning of transparency.

Here is an example of what I'm talking about. Where I have it paused, you can see the lower frames showing through a little. It's no biggy and it works, but it's bothering me. :h:

****LATER****

Never mind. I made a new one of just 4 frames without transparency, copied the opaque point of impact and pasted it into my original one. I left the slightly transparent one, too, but made it the same speed as the rest of the frames and made the opaque one 700ms..
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Posted 28 March 2008 - 07:45 PM

Oregonian, nice little animation. I have set you a PM answering this question, since it does involve some detail when using GAP to achieve your desired result.

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Edit: Just now seeing you have fixed the issue for your animation. Guess you can disregard my PM then.

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Posted 28 March 2008 - 08:12 PM

LOL I'm working on a smaller one and I'm going to use the instructions about the transparency. Gonna lick this thing yet.

Thank you.
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Posted 29 November 2009 - 12:26 PM

can somebody give me a link to download it for windows please :D
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Posted 30 September 2011 - 02:15 PM

Duplicate Frames isn't in Video, only Duplicate Continue. And when I try to use Duplicate Continue it comes up with an error message:
Execution error for 'Duplicate Continue':
Error: Eval: unbound variable: plug-in-gap-dup


:o I wanna use it...

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I'm feeling EBAL today...! ಠ‿ಠ

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#76 User is offline   ccbarr 

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Posted 01 October 2011 - 01:32 AM

View PostJeremifier, on 30 September 2011 - 02:15 PM, said:

Duplicate Frames isn't in Video, only Duplicate Continue. And when I try to use Duplicate Continue it comes up with an error message:
Execution error for 'Duplicate Continue':
Error: Eval: unbound variable: plug-in-gap-dup


:o I wanna use it...


Jeremifier hi,

While I made that tutorial a few years ago, the steps should still work. However, can you let me know what version of GIMP you are using please? Also, what Operating System? I am currently using Gimp 2.6.10 on Debian Squeeze with GAP version 2.6 and under Video there is a Duplicate Frames option. There is also a Duplicate Continue option, but that is not used in this tutorial.

If you are a Windows or OSX user, since I do not use those OSes, I do not know how to fix the problem other than recommending attempting to reinstall GAP. When GAP is properly installed, you should have a lot of options under the Video heading on an image window including Duplicate Frames. I haven't dealt with the latest version of GAP since I have not been using GAP a lot lately. So, if a newer version exists and changes have been made, I'm not aware of them at this time. Sorry about that.

If you have any other questions regarding GAP, feel free to ask here if it is related to this tutorial, or in the Gimp Help section otherwise. I will try to answer your questions if I can. I do not visit Gimptalk daily though, so my reply may not be immediate.

Thank you for attempting to try the tutorial. If you are interested in another fun Free Software animation program, you may find Synfig Studio interesting.

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Posted 21 March 2012 - 03:33 AM

I tried using GAP once....I was so confused. lol I'll have to try this sometime.
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Posted 21 November 2012 - 08:21 PM

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