[Oregonian]

Well I tried it and I still don't get billows of color. *sigh*

Even PhotoMaster's looks more billowy than mine.

Do you do anything differently in the Neon settings?

Guess I'm doomed to non-billowy stuff.

[Silvertayl]

Oregonian said:

Well I tried it and I still don't get billows of color. *sigh*

Even PhotoMaster's looks more billowy than mine.

Do you do anything differently in the Neon settings?

Guess I'm doomed to non-billowy stuff.

I did the tut again, taking note of the settings I used.

In the Neon I used 185
Difference clouds I used Detail = 7, Clicked new seed a few times then made X = 10.0 and Y = 6.5

Here's the result the O is for you:




PS: I forgot in step 8 I make 15 frames and when I do Video - Frames to image, I slowed the frame rate down and set it to 170, instead of doing it later.

[Oregonian]

I'm having trouble with the PhotoBucket website on my main machine so am having to upload my images from my laptop. Urg!

Here's mine using your settings and it just doesn't billow. Guess I'm living under a non-billowing cloud.

[Silvertayl]

Oregonian said:

I'm having trouble with the PhotoBucket website on my main machine so am having to upload my images from my laptop. Urg!

Here's mine using your settings and it just doesn't billow. Guess I'm living under a non-billowing cloud.

living under a non-billowing cloud. LOL!!! Maybe it's the autocrop that's the problem? It could be restricting the clouds to just around the flower, maybe? But it's only a guess.

PS: I use a laptop.

[Oregonian]

I left it large and didn't do any cropping until it was finished and ready to save as a gif so I wouldn't cut off anything. I'm resigned to my fate.

When you put it through Neon is your glow really wide? Mine is somewhat narrow, like the first ghost I did. I tried increasing the settings and doubling the neon glow layer but it still doesn't flare out very much.

[Silvertayl]

Oregonian said:

I left it large and didn't do any cropping until it was finished and ready to save as a gif so I wouldn't cut off anything. I'm resigned to my fate.

When you put it through Neon is your glow really wide? Mine is somewhat narrow, like the first ghost I did. I tried increasing the settings and doubling the neon glow layer but it still doesn't flare out very much.

No it doesn't look all that wide. But the end result is fairly wide.

This might be a stupid question but do you optimise for gif before saving as .gif? The reason I ask is because in the tutorial you don't say to optimise for gif before saving as an animation.

[Oregonian]

As a rule, I don't use the gif optimizer. It can ruin a perfectly good animation.

I re-ran Frames to Image, ran it through the optimizer and there is no difference in the one I posted up there and the optimized one.

Here is my flower and fog in a zipped file. Maybe you could download them and try running them through. Feel free to change the fog.
Right-click to download GAPflower.zip. Containes frame_000001.xcf and fog.xcf.

[Silvertayl]

Oregonian said:

As a rule, I don't use the gif optimizer. It can ruin a perfectly good animation.

I re-ran Frames to Image, ran it through the optimizer and there is no difference in the one I posted up there and the optimized one.

Here is my flower and fog in a zipped file. Maybe you could download them and try running them through. Feel free to change the fog.
Right-click to download GAPflower.zip. Containes frame_000001.xcf and fog.xcf.

I've downloaded it and I'll give it try, post my result later

[Silvertayl]

I couldn't use your flower as I didn't have the original image only the .xcf one. So I used this moon that is more solid than the ghosts and a similar density to the flower. It is a font I downloaded from DaFont It' called sbhading, the moon is the letter Z.

I followed your tut until: ' Layers> Autocrop layer' I left the autocrop out.

In Neon I used effect size 160 (as in tut).

Then I followed tut again until: 'Merge down the text layer to the Glow layer. Autocrop the image, then merge the text down....' Again I left out the Autocrop.

When I got to the Difference clouds I first set turbulence at 7 -Clicked new seed 6-7 times -X up to 12 -Y up to 7.5 so it condenses the clouds/fog.

I used 15 frames in the animation.

I followed the move path part of your tut until: 'Video> Frames to image' and changed the frame rate to 150.

I didn't 'optimise for gif' this time, but saved as a .gif

Here's what I got:

[Oregonian]

Silvertayl said:

I couldn't use your flower as I didn't have the original image only the .xcf one.

You should be able to use frame_000001.xcf. I really wanted you to test the image I made.

Just duplicate the frames using that file, then with the fog.xcf image do the Move Path thing.

[Oregonian]

I even copied your moon. Made my image the same size as yours - 400x400. Followed your settings as you wrote them up there. I'm not getting the spread like yours.

[Silvertayl]

Oregonian said:

I even copied your moon. Made my image the same size as yours - 400x400. Followed your settings as you wrote them up there. I'm not getting the spread like yours.

That is so wierd. :| Did leave the Autocrop out both times?

Your moon is nicer than mine though!! Mine is a bit wonky on the top end.

I have been palying around with the calendar script. You're right it is a lot of fun. Would it be possible for you to write a tut on how you achieved your clalendar signature?

PS: Just curious. Do you live in Oregon?

[Oregonian]

Yes, I live in Oregon on the south coast in a very small town.

As far as doing a tut about making that calendar sig, I will ask saulgoode if it's ok with him first since it's his script.

That moon, I made it by dragging and dropping your image onto the Gimp toolbox, made a new layer and used the Ellipse select tool to copy the big circle, then a smaller circle to subtract from it that pretty much fit the small hole then filled the resulting selection with black.

Nothing was cropped in my image at all. I started and ended with a 400x400px square.

[Silvertayl]

Okay here's my result using your Flower and Fog xcf files:



The animation is a bit strange, but Ithink that's my fault

Seems like the problem of non-billowy clouds is in your Neon Filter???

[Oregonian]

Aha! You gave me a clue. I started from scratch on the moon in Gimp2.6 and made Neon 160. It billows very nicely.

I started from scratch on the moon in Gimp2.4 and made Neon 500. Should have gone a lot higher to make it as billowy as the one in 2.6

The mystery is solved! Thank you Silvertayl for sticking with me and helping me figure out what was going on. :mrgreen:

The colors don't quite match but I wasn't going to quibble about that.

[Silvertayl]

Oregonian said:

Aha! You gave me a clue. I started from scratch on the moon in Gimp2.6 and made Neon 160. It billows very nicely.

I started from scratch on the moon in Gimp2.4 and made Neon 500. Should have gone a lot higher to make it as billowy as the one in 2.6

The mystery is solved! Thank you Silvertayl for sticking with me and helping me figure out what was going on. :mrgreen:

The colors don't quite match but I wasn't going to quibble about that.

So let me see if I got this right. You made the original tut in 2.4 and set your Neon to 160 when to get billowy you should have used 500 or higher. In 2.6 you set the Neon to 160 and that got you athe result similar to the one I got:?: :?: :?:

I use Gimp Portable the lastest one and the Neon Filter only goes as high as 200, so in the newer versions of Gimp the Neon Filter is more intense than the older ones.

I'm pleased you have got it sorted out it was obviously driving you to distraction. Glad I could be of some help as I've only beem using gimp for a year and still learning lots.

Thank you for this tut the fog/clouds can be used for many applications :D :D :D

I guess this means you are no longer 'living under a non-billowy cloud' :lol: :lol: :lol:

[Oregonian]

Silvertayl said:

So let me see if I got this right. You made the original tut in 2.4 and set your Neon to 160 when to get billowy you should have used 500 or higher. In 2.6 you set the Neon to 160 and that got you the result similar to the one I got:?: :?: :?:

I use Gimp Portable the lastest one and the Neon Filter only goes as high as 200, so in the newer versions of Gimp the Neon Filter is more intense than the older ones.

That's correct. I made a new ghost and the Neon setting is 700. I went back into the filter and I could put in 1000 and go even higher! 1000 doesn't look a lot different from the 700 I used in this updated ghost.

I also used the fog filter instead of clouds difference. Where that fog came from I don't know but I found a foggify.py plug-in on the Internet. I don't have it in my plug-ins folder in either version but I have Fog on both computers. You can check out the plug-in here. Perhaps it's included in a script somewhere.

Silvertayl said:

I guess this means you are no longer 'living under a non-billowy cloud' :lol: :lol: :lol:

I'm living under clouds that are billowing and throwing down zillions of rain drops here. :mrgreen:

Silvertayl said:

Thank you for this tut the fog/clouds can be used for many applications :D :D :D

It took both of us to get it figured out though. *grin* You are welcome and I'm happy you like it.

Updated ghost.

[Silvertayl]

Here's another version:

[Oregonian]

That's cool, Silvertayl. The frame timing gives the feeling of a clock ticking. It looks like you didn't delete your top frame or was that pause deliberate?

[Silvertayl]

Silvertayl said:

Here's another version:

That's cool, Silvertayl. The frame timing gives the feeling of a clock ticking. It looks like you didn't delete your top frame or was that pause deliberate?


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I used 20 frames and I did delete the 21st. I didn't mean for there to be a pause.

Oh dear, looks like I still have GAP issues :lol: