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Jester in Scenic forest view (now with tutorial)

#1 User is offline   Griatch 

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Posted 05 August 2008 - 02:00 AM

Back from vacations, sat down with a doodle that evolved into this...

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UPDATE: There is now a tutorial for this image. You can find it [here]

From scratch in GIMP2.4.5, took some 6 hours or so.

I'm not fond of painting trees; it's tricky business, not to mention that the buggers have a gazillion leaves that you can never really put in there individually unless you want to spend weeks on the image. I've experimented with making lush trees for some time and this came out decent I think. I've saved step-by-step images of how the landscape and trees were created, so if (and only if) there is a demand for it I could write a tutorial on it.

Originally started this as a background for a very different image, but I thought it was a little sad to hide the background, so I ditched the foreground for later (it will appear in another image) and used the background almost straight off instead. :-)
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 06:13 AM

gosh man, so what, are you related to da vinci or something :P

love it like all of your works :)

from scratch has always been my favorite work, and i have to ask a couple questions

how long have you been drawing?
how did you improve?
what kind of equipment do you use? (like what tablet or w/e)

thanks a ton for sharing :)
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 02:35 PM

Osom work Griatch. You could make/use a set of leaves brushes to make your the work easier. It really looks like a well done hand painting! Only one suggestion though. The skinny light brown tree near the center (in front of the larger tree) looks slightly unnatural (too upright?). It's probably best to leave it like that since it could mess up the other aspects of the paining. Other than that, one of my favorite Griatch pieces. :P
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 03:23 PM

Thanks for your comments!

Ajit1 said:

how long have you been drawing?
how did you improve?
what kind of equipment do you use? (like what tablet or w/e)
thanks a ton for sharing :)

Let's see if I can answer ...

How long ... Been painting since I was a kid (mostly in oils, pencils and charcoal) and I found a few old images I did on the computer around 1997 or so, at the time using my trusty Amiga4000 with the great old program Deluxe Paint V (limited in number of colours and no layers, but still a great program for pixel art). I didn't do much computer art at the time though, I did almost everything with pen and paper still. Started with GIMP (under Linux, when I finally switched from the Amiga) in 2003 or so, and these days I do everything on the computer.

Improvement ... is mostly from feedback and serioue critique I manage to squeeze out of people; from friends and family but most especially from here, on DeviantArt and a few other places. Some serious, rather clear (and in my opinion beneficial) changes in style has come out of me simply deciding to follow the advice of people giving constructive criticism. Critique is really the main reason I post my work on the net at all (that, and for using it in some online roleplaying games).

As for equipment, I've done a lot of work with a mouse, including some character portraits (several of my tutorials are made with a mouse just so people get over the misconception that you have to have a tablet to get artistic results). The mouse is actually kinda neat for painting, it just requires a special technique (it's also generally slower to work with) and requires you to learn it, like any tool. The problem most people have is that they have a crap mouse; it's like trying to draw with a ink pen that leaks all over the place. I have a Logitech laser mouse and that does wonders. These days though, I do use a tablet, a Wacom Intuous 3. It's a joy to use, but I still fall back to the mouse when I'm marooned on my laptop or when I try to make a point in a tutorial (heck, I've even drawn a character with the laptop 'joystick' once, now THAT's tricky ...).

Hope that answers your questions. :-)

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You could make/use a set of leaves brushes to make your the work easier. It really looks like a well done hand painting! Only one suggestion though. The skinny light brown tree near the center (in front of the larger tree) looks slightly unnatural (too upright?). It's probably best to leave it like that since it could mess up the other aspects of the paining.


Thanks for the suggestions! I have tried with leave brushes (like [here]), problem is that it's hard to not make it look repetitive and awkward. Maybe I've just not found a good method for using them efficiently. If you have any good suggestions, It'd be great to hear it.
As for the tree, it's possible you are right that it throws the composition a bit. I wanted some sort of diagonal in the image, for increased dynamics, but maybe it's too much -- not sure I'll change it, but it's worth thinking about. The tree itself is however a sort of birch (think it's called a "Downy birch") and they are supposed to look like that. :-)
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 04:11 PM

well, at the resolutions you work at, painting the leaves WOULD take while. :P

ever consider making a custom brush pipe for the foliage of each tree?

faved and commented @ DA. :)
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 05:28 PM

ok thanks for the response and info :)

im still a teen so guess i got to get to work if i wanna be good! :D
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Posted 05 August 2008 - 11:07 PM

great lighting and atmosphere

and wonderful details as usual

good job on another great painting griatch
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 01:58 AM

You truely inspire man, great work. I really like the feeling this one offers...
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Posted 06 August 2008 - 02:04 PM

Thanks to comments from a few different sources, I made some minor updates to the Jester's anatomy.


Thanks for the kind comments!

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well, at the resolutions you work at, painting the leaves WOULD take while. :P
ever consider making a custom brush pipe for the foliage of each tree?

Yes, I have tried various brushes at times, but I'm yet to find or come up with a good leaf-specific brush to use as of yet. Sigh.
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 01:26 AM

Can you like come over to my house and teach me? lol

I'm actually kind of serious since I'm no good at this type of stuff and would love to learn but it's pretty hard unless you've been painting/drawing before attempting

Anyway I love it, never really been a fan of digital art but yours is infallible.
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Posted 07 August 2008 - 11:26 AM

your artwork is incredible.
I really love your sig too.
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Posted 09 August 2008 - 04:20 PM

Thanks for the comments.

There is now a tutorial for how this image was done. The link is in the first post. Enjoy! :)
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Posted 09 August 2008 - 11:43 PM

good and original as usual

i will not miss the tutorial, even more because finally i get a graphic tablet (hem...a cheap Trust not sure it will work with gimp ...but since is a present i will try) :)
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 09:01 AM

@Photocomix

Thanks and good luck with the graphics tablet!
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 10:52 AM

Graitch what graphics tablet do you have and what one would you recomend for someone with about £30-£50 to spend?
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 10:59 AM

I generally always recommend a Wacom tablet. Get the cheapest one, the Wacom Bamboo, at least here they should cost somewhere in the upper range of your budget. You're unlikely to ever need anything more than that.

I use a Wacom Intuous these days, but to be honest I'd still use my starter Wacom tablet (the old version of the Bamboo, called Graphire) if it hadn't been so old it didn't work as well with my computer anymore (no USB cable). ^_^;
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:03 AM

Have you eever come across the Wacom Bamboo Pen Tablet MTE450 i here it is good and im thing of buying it as it only costs £35 do you know weather it is good griatch?
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 11:16 AM

I don't think there are more than one type of Wacom Bamboo, although it might have different number designations in different countries. As far as I have heard they are good tablets. Wacom tablets are also the ones most certain to work with full functionality in GIMP as well as under Linux.
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Posted 12 August 2008 - 01:59 PM

Ah I have been meaning to post but I was always in a hurry when I got to this topic. Anyways griatch, very nice painting as usual. The lighting in the picture, especially near the jester is masterfully done, and the trees are each different and they all look real. Its always nice to see a new piece from you and see how your skills are always increasing. Good job.
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Posted 15 August 2008 - 10:34 PM

Thanks frank, glad you like it. :mrgreen:
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