[ZacharyS]

Hello, I am an artsy, non very computer oriented kind of person, so pardon any ignorance. But, I've been having the same problems that other people have been having with their Bamboo tablet. It freezes, then it works, then it freezes. It makes using The GIMP virtually impossible, and I have no idea what to do. :(

I'm not saying anything new...but, has there been any simple solution discovered yet?

[Griatch]

The problem with bamboo under Windows GIMP is covered in this bug report to GIMP developers.

http://bugzilla.gnom...g.cgi?id=496958

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A workaround is suggested by the WACOM support team

'The problem that we see here is that you can use the Bamboo including pressure
sensitivity until you take the pen out of proximity. When you do this, you
should put it back on the tablet at the about the same place from where it was
lifted. Otherwise the pointer doesn't move and you have to try perhaps several
times bringing the pen into proximity and back until it responds normal again.
- This seems to be related to 'unusual' pointer mapping within Gimps tablet
handling.'

It's not a solution, but at least might be worth trying in the interim.
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Griatch

[ZacharyS]

Thanks for the info Griatch. It just seems quite unfortunate that fixing this problem is definitely not of the highest priority for the community. :(

I'll try doing what your suggested, but it seems like I may have to make the switch to Photoshop Elements until I upgrade to a new tablet. (which sucks, because I really like The GIMP)

[ZacharyS]

I tried doing what you recommended Griatch, but I'm still having the same problems with The GIMP. :(

Oh well...

[Griatch]

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It just seems quite unfortunate that fixing this problem is definitely not of the highest priority for the community. :(

The perpetual problem with open-source development; people work on their own time and without any salary. The main problem seems to be that the most active developers doesn't in general use tablets much themselves. And of course few use Windows in the first place; tablets work just fine under Linux.

It should also be noted that this is not strictly a GIMP issue, but a GTK+ issue, the gui library GIMP relies on (at least that's where this bug was reported to).

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I tried doing what you recommended Griatch, but I'm still having the same problems with The GIMP. :(

Too bad. Some has claimed that the latest versions of GIMP work slightly better, if this is a sign of things to come I don't know though. Hopefully the issues will be resolved soon, since Wacom seems to think the issues lie on the GIMP/GTK+ side.

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[robynsveil]

I have a strange problem with my wacom Bamboo tablet in the GIMP in Ubuntu Linux - only in The GIMP, no other programme, not the test programmes or anything. When I leave the Extended Input Device settings disabled, the cursor and the draw point are exactly aligned and drawing is fine, except there's no pressure sensitivity or anything like that. If I set the stylus, eraser and cursor to screen, there is an offset between the cursor and draw point - I tried to take a screenshot but when the tablet has control I can't seem to with the print-screen button.

I hope this makes sense to you.

My xorg.conf is set up this way:

# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)

#

# This file was generated by failsafeDexconf, using

# values from the debconf database and some overrides to use vesa mode.

#

# You should use dexconf or another such tool for creating a "real" xorg.conf

# For example:

#   sudo dpkg-reconfigure -phigh xserver-xorg

Section "Files"

EndSection


Section "Module"

	Load		"glx"

	Load		"v4l"

EndSection


Section "InputDevice"

	Identifier	"Generic Keyboard"

	Driver		"kbd"

	Option		"CoreKeyboard"

	Option		"XkbRules"	"xorg"

	Option		"XkbModel"	"pc105"

	Option		"XkbLayout"	"us"

	Option		"XkbOptions"	"lv3:ralt_switch"

EndSection


Section "InputDevice"

	Driver		"wacom"

	Identifier	"stylus"

	Option		"Device"	"/dev/input/wacom"

	Option		"Type"		"stylus"

#	Option		"ForceDevice"	"ISDV4"		# Tablet PC ONLY

	Option		"USB"		"on"

EndSection


Section "InputDevice"

	Driver		"wacom"

	Identifier	"eraser"

	Option		"Device"	"/dev/input/wacom"

	Option		"Type"		"eraser"

#	Option		"ForceDevice"	"ISDV4"		# Tablet PC ONLY

	Option		"USB"		"on"

EndSection


Section "InputDevice"

	Driver		"wacom"

	Identifier	"cursor"

	Option		"Device"	"/dev/input/wacom"

	Option		"Type"		"cursor"

#	Option		"ForceDevice"	"ISDV4"		# Tablet PC ONLY

	Option		"USB"		"on"

EndSection


Section "InputDevice"

	Driver		"wacom"

	Identifier	"pad"

	Option		"Device"	"/dev/input/wacom"

	Option		"Type"		"pad"

	Option		"USB"		"on"

EndSection


Section "InputDevice"

	Identifier	"Configured Mouse"

	Driver		"mouse"

	Option		"CorePointer"

	Option		"Device"	"/dev/input/mice"

	Option		"Protocol"	"ImPS/2"

	Option		"ZAxisMapping"	"4 5"

EndSection


Section "Device"

	Identifier	"Failsafe Device"

	Boardname	"NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic)"

	Busid		"PCI:1:0:0"

	Driver		"nvidia"

	Screen	0

	Vendorname	"NVIDIA"

EndSection


Section "Monitor"

	Identifier	"Failsafe Monitor"

	Vendorname	"Plug 'n' Play"

	Modelname	"Plug 'n' Play"

  modeline  "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "640x480@72" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "640x480@75" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "640x480@85" 36.0 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "800x600@56" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "800x600@72" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "800x600@75" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "800x600@85" 56.3 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "800x600@60" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "832x624@75" 57.284 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "1024x768@85" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1024x768@75" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1024x768@70" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "1024x768@60" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "1024x768@43" 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 +hsync interlace +vsync

  modeline  "1152x864@75" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x1024@75" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x960@60" 102.1 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 994 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x960@85" 148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 960 961 964 1011 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x1024@85" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x1024@60" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x960@75" 129.86 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1400x1050@60" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1400x1050@75" 155.85 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1096 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1600x1200@65" 175.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1600x1200@60" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1600x1200@75" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1600x1200@70" 189.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1600x1200@85" 229.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1792x1344@75" 261.0 1792 1888 2104 2456 1344 1345 1348 1417 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1792x1344@60" 204.8 1792 1920 2120 2448 1344 1345 1348 1394 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1856x1392@60" 218.3 1856 1952 2176 2528 1392 1393 1396 1439 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1920x1440@60" 234.0 1920 2048 2256 2600 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "2048x1536@60" 266.95 2048 2200 2424 2800 1536 1537 1540 1589 -hsync +vsync

	Gamma	1.0

EndSection


Section "Screen"

	Identifier	"Default Screen"

	Device		"Failsafe Device"

	Monitor		"Failsafe Monitor"

	Defaultdepth	24

	SubSection "Display"

		Depth	24

		Virtual	2048	1536

		Modes		"1600x1200@75"	"1600x1200@70"	"1600x1200@60"	"1600x1200@85"	"1600x1200@65"	"1792x1344@75"	"1400x1050@75"	"1792x1344@60"	"1400x1050@60"	"1856x1392@60"	"1280x960@75"	"1920x1440@60"	"1280x1024@60"	"2048x1536@60"	"1280x1024@85"	"1280x960@85"	"1280x960@60"	"1280x1024@75"	"1152x864@75"	"1024x768@43"	"1024x768@60"	"1024x768@70"	"1024x768@75"	"1024x768@85"	"832x624@75"	"800x600@60"	"800x600@85"	"800x600@75"	"800x600@72"	"800x600@56"	"640x480@85"	"640x480@75"	"640x480@72"	"640x480@60"

	EndSubSection

EndSection


Section "ServerLayout"

	Identifier	"Default Layout"

  screen 0 "Default Screen" 0 0

	Inputdevice	"Generic Keyboard"

	Inputdevice	"Configured Mouse"

# Uncomment if you have a wacom tablet

	InputDevice     "stylus"	"SendCoreEvents"

	InputDevice     "cursor"	"SendCoreEvents"

	InputDevice     "eraser"	"SendCoreEvents"

	InputDevice	"pad"		"SendCoreEvents"EndSection


Section "device" #    

	Identifier	"device1"

	Boardname	"NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic)"

	Busid		"PCI:1:0:0"

	Driver		"nvidia"

	Screen	1

	Vendorname	"NVIDIA"

EndSection


Section "screen" #    

	Identifier	"screen1"

	Device		"device1"

	Defaultdepth	24

	Monitor		"monitor1"

	SubSection "Display"

		Depth	24

		Modes		"640x480@60"	"640x480@72"	"640x480@75"	"640x480@85"	"800x600@56"	"800x600@72"	"800x600@75"	"800x600@85"	"800x600@60"	"832x624@75"	"1024x768@85"	"1024x768@75"	"1024x768@70"	"1024x768@60"	"1024x768@43"	"1152x864@75"	"1280x1024@75"	"1280x960@60"	"1280x960@85"	"1280x1024@85"	"1280x1024@60"	"1280x960@75"	"1400x1050@60"	"1400x1050@75"	"1600x1200@65"	"1600x1200@60"	"1600x1200@75"	"1600x1200@70"	"1600x1200@85"	"1792x1344@75"	"1792x1344@60"	"1856x1392@60"	"1920x1440@60"	"2048x1536@60"

	EndSubSection

EndSection


Section "monitor" #    

	Identifier	"monitor1"

	Vendorname	"Plug 'n' Play"

	Modelname	"Plug 'n' Play"

  modeline  "640x480@60" 25.2 640 656 752 800 480 490 492 525 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "640x480@72" 31.5 640 664 704 832 480 489 491 520 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "640x480@75" 31.5 640 656 720 840 480 481 484 500 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "640x480@85" 36.0 640 696 752 832 480 481 484 509 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "800x600@56" 36.0 800 824 896 1024 600 601 603 625 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "800x600@72" 50.0 800 856 976 1040 600 637 643 666 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "800x600@75" 49.5 800 816 896 1056 600 601 604 625 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "800x600@85" 56.3 800 832 896 1048 600 601 604 631 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "800x600@60" 40.0 800 840 968 1056 600 601 605 628 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "832x624@75" 57.284 832 864 928 1152 624 625 628 667 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "1024x768@85" 94.5 1024 1072 1168 1376 768 769 772 808 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1024x768@75" 78.8 1024 1040 1136 1312 768 769 772 800 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1024x768@70" 75.0 1024 1048 1184 1328 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "1024x768@60" 65.0 1024 1048 1184 1344 768 771 777 806 -vsync -hsync

  modeline  "1024x768@43" 44.9 1024 1032 1208 1264 768 768 776 817 +hsync interlace +vsync

  modeline  "1152x864@75" 108.0 1152 1216 1344 1600 864 865 868 900 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x1024@75" 135.0 1280 1296 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x960@60" 102.1 1280 1360 1496 1712 960 961 964 994 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x960@85" 148.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 960 961 964 1011 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x1024@85" 157.5 1280 1344 1504 1728 1024 1025 1028 1072 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x1024@60" 108.0 1280 1328 1440 1688 1024 1025 1028 1066 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1280x960@75" 129.86 1280 1368 1504 1728 960 961 964 1002 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1400x1050@60" 122.61 1400 1488 1640 1880 1050 1051 1054 1087 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1400x1050@75" 155.85 1400 1496 1648 1896 1050 1051 1054 1096 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1600x1200@65" 175.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1600x1200@60" 162.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1600x1200@75" 202.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1600x1200@70" 189.0 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1600x1200@85" 229.5 1600 1664 1856 2160 1200 1201 1204 1250 +hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1792x1344@75" 261.0 1792 1888 2104 2456 1344 1345 1348 1417 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1792x1344@60" 204.8 1792 1920 2120 2448 1344 1345 1348 1394 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1856x1392@60" 218.3 1856 1952 2176 2528 1392 1393 1396 1439 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "1920x1440@60" 234.0 1920 2048 2256 2600 1440 1441 1444 1500 -hsync +vsync

  modeline  "2048x1536@60" 266.95 2048 2200 2424 2800 1536 1537 1540 1589 -hsync +vsync

	Gamma	1.0

EndSection

Section "ServerFlags"

EndSection

Thanks for your help on this...

[Griatch]

@robynsveil

This comes from the tablet and gimp using different coordinate systems, and should be set by the device Mode, i.e. either Screen or Window ...
I guess you have tried setting the mode to "Window" too, just to see if it works better?

Otherwise you can try to add the following to your "InputDevice" sections for stylus and eraser:

Option "Mode" "Absolute"
Option "Gimp" "on"


Not sure if that will help (Gimp mode might even be deprecated), but I run an Intuous3 using two monitors without any problems with those lines added. You might also want to directly specify the screen ratio. Check out the LinuxWacom docs here for more driver options you could play with.
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[Griatch]

Added a section on how to tweak the pressure sensitivity in Linux. Try it out, it makes your tablet a lot more sensitive!
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[curly haired boy]

surprisingly enough, when i plugged my brand new bamboo fun into my computer, it's been working with my GIMP with no problems. :D

[Griatch]

@curly

This is very good news. I guess you're using Windows? Could you give some info about your system? Windows version, driver versions, GIMP version, hardware and so on?
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Griatch

[robynsveil]

@ Griatch
Solved the wacom Bamboo/GIMP cursor/drawpoint offset problem. The details of that solution can be perused here:
http://ubuntuforums....ad.php?t=696160

For the sake of completeness, here is my xorg.conf:

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# xorg.conf (xorg X Window System server configuration file)
#

Section "Files"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Generic Keyboard"
Driver "kbd"
Option "CoreKeyboard"
Option "XkbRules" "xorg"
Option "XkbModel" "pc105"
Option "XkbLayout" "us"
Option "XkbOptions" "lv3:ralt_switch"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Identifier "Configured Mouse"
Driver "mouse"
Option "CorePointer"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/mice"
Option "Protocol" "ImPS/2"
Option "ZAxisMapping" "4 5"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "stylus"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "stylus"
Option "USB" "on"
Option "Mode" "Absolute"
Option "PressCurve" "50,0,100,50"
Option "Gimp" "on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "eraser"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "eraser"
Option "Mode" "Absolute"
Option "USB" "on"
Option "Gimp" "on"
EndSection

Section "InputDevice"
Driver "wacom"
Identifier "cursor"
Option "Device" "/dev/input/wacom"
Option "Type" "cursor"
Option "USB" "on"
EndSection

Section "Device"
Identifier "nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT]"
Boardname "NVIDIA GeForce FX (generic)"
Busid "PCI:1:0:0"
Driver "nvidia"
Screen 0
Vendorname "NVIDIA"
EndSection

Section "Monitor"
Identifier "CM753"
Option "DPMS"
EndSection

Section "Screen"
Identifier "Default Screen"
Device "nVidia Corporation NV43 [GeForce 6600 GT]"
Monitor "CM753"
DefaultDepth 24
SubSection "Display"
Modes "1600x1280" "1600x1200" "1280x1024" "1024x768" "832x624" "800x600" "720x400" "640x480"
EndSubSection
EndSection

Section "ServerLayout"
Identifier "Default Layout"
Screen "Default Screen"
InputDevice "Generic Keyboard"
InputDevice "Configured Mouse"
InputDevice "stylus" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "cursor" "SendCoreEvents"
InputDevice "eraser" "SendCoreEvents"
EndSection

Hope this helps someone with this kind of issue...

[Griatch]

@robynsveil

As far as I can tell from your link xorg file, you added the few extra lines to your xorg file and went back to an alternative version of the linuxwacom driver? Ok, good that it works for you now!
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[mangadude5760]

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@curly

This is very good news. I guess you're using Windows? Could you give some info about your system? Windows version, driver versions, GIMP version, hardware and so on?
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Griatch

I'd love to finally get it working right! I'd love to know your details as well.

[curly haired boy]

well, i'm using windows XP home edition SP2, with GIMP 2.2.17 for windows.

the tablet is the wacom bamboo fun medium, running driver version 2.8 from wacom - included on the installation CD.

now, since my last post, i have encountered the occasional loss of pointer control, like others in this thread. however, i found that by lifting the pen off the tablet sensor zone a few times and then replacing it, the control is restored. i usually get control back within five times of doing that. it's not a frequent occurrence.

[mangadude5760]

I think I may have a way to semi-solve the problem.

If you are running GIMP then close out of it.

Then Clear your tablet preference file.

Then open up GIMP.

The problem with the cursor displacement is solved I believe but the cursor may freeze or slow down after lifting off and putting it back down but just lift it off and on and it should correct itself.

Can someone try this out to see if it is just not me.

[black modoki]

k, the mouse i got with my tablet works fine with Gimp, but when i open a picture, it doesn't work at all!!! also, i can't get the stylus to work!! it responds too slow.
i'm sorry for acting like a complete noob, but i just got my Bamboo tablet today, and i'm also a computer noob, so i prtty much have no idea what half the stuff people write here means. :s: :s:

[Griatch]

@black modoki

Hm, assuming your are on Windows, have you tried all the different settings (prefs->devices->[Windows/Screen] etc) I wrote about in the original post, as well as getting the latest GIMP and the latest drivers from Wacom's homepage?

That said, there seems to be an issue with bamboo and Windows GIMP (or at least the GTK+ component of GIMP, that handles the graphical interface of the program) at the moment. I don't use Windows so I don't really know how to help further, hopefully there will be a solution in the code soon.
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[SAMUSLOVER213]

question Griatch,

Lets say I want to make a signature, using the mouse thats provided with the Wacom. But when I go to try, the point where the paintbrush, eraser, etc. is not lining up with where I point my mouse. The point of the paintbrush is always off whenever I use my mouse, but then becomes normal when I use my stylus.

anyway to fix this?

-SL213

[Griatch]

@SAMUSLOVER

If your stylus works as it should, make sure you have set your wacom mouse device (it could be "cursor" or "puck" or similar in Windows, not sure) to the same setting as the stylus in Gimp's Prefs->device settings. Only thing I can think of right now.
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[SAMUSLOVER213]

that may work, but, when I go to change my cursor settings under Wacom Tablet Puck, it doesn't change.

I click on the down arrow for the Pressure, x and y tilts, but it only goes up to 2, and when I click 1 or 2, it just keeps it on 'none'.

I have no idea why.

-SL213