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Install guide: Wacom drawing tablets with GIMP

#21 User is offline   PieKey 

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Posted 29 November 2007 - 05:50 PM

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Hi,

I have also problems with Gimp 2.2.11 on MacOS with the Wacom Bamboo tablet. I have installed the delivered drivers and everything works with Photoshop Elements. But using Gimp I can not use the pressure sensitivity feature of the pen.
I followed the instructions as descriped in chapter "Setting up GIMP (Windows / Mac / Linux)" to setup Gimp for the tablet but Preferences->Input devices->Configure Extended input devices says "no extended input devices" .
Any idea what I can try else?

I don't really want to use Photoshop Elements instead of Gimp :-(

Bye,
Juergen


I got the same Problem with my GIMP 2.4.2 Tiger Intel Version published on WLA!
I think it's a Problem we have with X11.
I hope we get it work with the QUARTZ-Version (Using GTK+ nativ on the Mac)
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Posted 03 December 2007 - 07:49 PM

When I look at the list of devices, there are first one that is full of gibberish. Then the stylus and lastly 4 erasers...
My problem is with the eraser. Somehow it works like the stylus, it doesn't erase, it draws in whatever color the stylus uses. Any idea on how to fix it?

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Perhaps I should have mentioned that I use Windows XP Pro SP2 and Wacom Intous3 6x11, with the 6.05-7(RC) driver.
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#23 User is offline   JO123 

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Posted 05 December 2007 - 02:47 PM

same problem with Wacom bamboo, Windows XP Pro SP2, GIMP 2.4.2
Cursor is freezing for 5-30 seconds on GIMP windows, but stylus buttons or tapping is still working.
Drivers from the CD which came with tablet give two devices in the 'Configure Extended input devices' - stylus and eraser, but stylus has only two axises, then I switch to eraser - it has three axises - X, Y, pressure, then switch back to stylus - and pressure appeared here.
With latest Wacom drivers from Wacom site - there 2 stylus devices with garbage after stylus name, and 4 erasers.

I had googled this problem - looks like it persists at least from September and related on GTK+. I'm frustrated about GIMP developers spitting on users. Is this payment for free software? It's very disappointing. Moving to Photoshop...
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 08:29 PM

@everyone in thread

I don't use GIMP with Windows, nor am I a GIMP or tablet developer so I can only guess here. Keep that in mind.

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Okay, I just upgraded to GIMP 2.4.2 and my tablet isn't working with it. I have a Wacom Graphire4 and my OS is Windows XP Home Edition

My problem is that my tablet doesn't want to configure with the program no matter what. When I go to the "Configure Input Devices" and press "Configure Extended Input Devices" the GIMP doesn't detect my tablet at all... what should I do about this?


Hmm, the Graphire should be working fine ... Was it working before you upgraded or have you also changed any drivers lately? Some others seem to suggest that the latest official Wacom driver gives different errors for them than before, maybe it's something with that? Try reverting back to the latest version of GIMP that worked for you (if any), if that works, you can at least rule out a driver issua and contribute it to GIMP failing.

@Piekey

No idea about Mac, sorry. Hopefully someone else can help.

@Cane

Is this using the latest GIMP? The "gibberish" issue seems to occur lately on Windows, but it's the first time I've heard it happen on an Intuous. I use my Intuous3 without any problems under Linux, so this seems to be an issue with theGIMP 2.4.x GIMP Windows port and the latest Wacom drivers ... if this happens to all tablets (not only the Bamboo), then it's a pretty big issue, something the devs would have to work on. Could you maybe try finding an older version of the official Wacom drivers, just to see if it changes anything?

@JO123

It's interesting that the error behaviour changes when you upgrade the official Wacom drivers. This suggests that there is indeed a driver compatabiloty issue (with GIMP or with GTK+ as you say, but it works fine on Linux, so I'm not sure). Could you just experiement finding older version of the Wacom driver, to see if makes any difference?

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I had googled this problem - looks like it persists at least from September and related on GTK+. I'm frustrated about GIMP developers spitting on users. Is this payment for free software? It's very disappointing. Moving to Photoshop...


It's understandable that you are frustrated, but saying that open-source devs are "spitting on users" is just plain silly. I'm sorry to break this to you, but you are no "customer" of the program (since it's free). You cannot really "demand" anything from the developers (even though they are in practice very attentive to user requests and opinions). Strictly speaking they are all volunteers who do this for fun, letting the rest of us share the results of their hard work. If you're not happy with what they are doing, you are more than happy to freely download the GIMP source and fix your issues yourself, that's the beauty of it. By the way -- tablets works perfectly in Linux, and the Windows port is a separate thing, so know where you are aiming your critique. So far I'm yet to see a clear indication as to what is actually wrong -- GTK, WinGIMP or the latest Wacom drivers.
It will be resolved, but it can take some time. If you prefer to go to Photoshop over this, you are welcome to do so. GIMP is not competing with anyone.
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 09:39 PM

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Could you just experiement finding older version of the Wacom driver, to see if makes any difference?

I'll try it if I'll be able to find it. Also I'm going to try older GTK+ (I had found this discussion: http://gug.sunsite.dk/forum/?threadid=4 ... SID=ccaa... ) Is the last GIMP version still compatible with old GTK+?

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It's understandable that you are frustrated, but saying that open-source devs are "spitting on users" is just plain silly.

I'm not blaming them that GIMP has bugs - any program has bugs - even HelloWorld :). I'm pointing that so horrible bug is persisting at least 3 (THREE!!!) months and coming from previous version (!!!). I understand 1 or 2 or even 3 weeks... but 3 months and I didn't see any comments from them - it's unbelievable...

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I'm sorry to break this to you, but you are no "customer" of the program (since it's free). You cannot really "demand" anything from the developers (even though they are in practice very attentive to user requests and opinions).

I'm understanding it - so why I'm talking such kind of issue should be resolved not a 3 days, but 3 weeks. I'm ready to wait some predictable time to for bugfix for a product I like, but this time should be reasonable (related to volunteer-based) and predictable. So far I can't predict this time, so for me this time -> infinity.

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If you're not happy with what they are doing, you are more than happy to freely download the GIMP source and fix your issues yourself, that's the beauty of it.

Maybe, maybe... actually I'm programmer and I'm understanding developer's hard working. But anyway the time should be reasonable...

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By the way -- tablets works perfectly in Linux, and the Windows port is a separate thing, so know where you are aiming your critique.

My aim is the gimp.org :) - I didn't go deep to the developers team's structure :)
I like GIMP. I DON'T want to move to PS so much...

P.S.
just checked http://gug.sunsite.d.../?threadid=4549 again - initiate post timestamped 2007-02-11 00:31 (CET)
Is it February?!?!?
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 10:01 PM

...and one more small (but fat :) remark...
...don't bite me please :)
SDI IS HORRIBLE!!!
Not SDI actually but button for each window in the taskbar - it's HIGHLY inconvenient to switch between GIMP and other applications - I should click at least 2 (usually 3 or more) buttons to bring GIMP's windows on top, and these buttons take too much of small taskbar's space. There should be only ONE button on the taskbar - it's not a much difference for the interface itself but much more convenient.
...or instruments and nonmodal dialogs should be dockable to the canvas window
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Posted 05 December 2007 - 10:30 PM

Griatch yes it is the latest version of Gimp.
Actually I had a older driver but just upgraded to the latest because Gimp crashed each time I used the tablet... Seeing as I got another strange problem involving MPlayer before I switched to a newer driver, I don't know if that have anything to do with Gimp or if it is the driver.
I got this weird message, telling me that the driver crashed, each time I loaded a new file, everything worked fine besides the message though... it was more annoying than anything else.

-Update
After restarting my computer I started to get this message from Gimp
"Error while parsing 'C:\Documents and Settings\Cane\.gimp-2.4\devicerc' in line 13: unexpected character `(', expected string constant - fatal parse error"
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#28 User is offline   JO123 

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Posted 06 December 2007 - 02:12 PM

didn't find old drivers - Wacom hasn't drivers archive - only current drivers available...
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Posted 16 December 2007 - 05:08 PM

JO123 if it bothers you so much (button for each window in the taskbar) then perhaps you should try GIMPshop (http://registry.gimp.../plugin?id=3892), it is what make it possible for GIMPshop to bundle all the GIMP windows into one.
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Posted 26 December 2007 - 03:54 AM

I am using Gimp2.4.2 and I am having the same problems with my Wacom Bamboo tablet. Sometimes I can draw ok for a while, but soon the tablet cursor will either freeze or become inoperable.
Has a solution to this problem been discovered yet?
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 08:14 PM

Update: I can limp along in gimp by switching between eraser and pen when the cursor sticks. It takes a few tries but eventually the cursor will become fluid again.

I hope that GTK+ will fix this tablet bug soon. I really like my new Bamboo.
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Posted 28 December 2007 - 08:55 PM

Hi. I am running Windows and using the GIMP 2.4. You see, I just got a Bamboo tablet and it freezes in the GIMP when switching from the mouse to the pen, freezes when I lift up the pen, and if the mouse is so high off the pad, the brush outline will move will move, but the actual mouse(on the screen) won't move. This results in some weird off-set from the mouse and the brush. Restarting the GIMP doesn't help. Can you help me?

Edit:
I have to use PhotoShop right now because my tablet won't work right in the GIMP. Grrr.
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 02:42 AM

Good evening! Just wanted to toss in my 2c.. I just became more addicted to the GIMP. Folks at work dragged their feet with Photoshop... so I converted. My old Wacom ArtzII works fine at work (serial type).. I did have to start GIMP with the stylus one time to kick things into action. (Strangely, it didn't detect any devices until I did that).
So... tonight I tried to use GIMP with my Graphire4 for the first time..
ARGH!!!!!
I have spent around 2 hours trying to get it to work well. The first thing that I noticed that irked me was that the Control-scroll didn't zoom on the mouse... (ah, er.. 'puck'). That was my first challenge. This was all with GIMP 2.4.1. Then, I noticed that the cursor wasn't aligned right with the pointer.. in fact, they moved a slightly different speeds... YUCK!.. Then... the lockups. The cursor just locked up a few times. I alt-tabbed to another app... and it worked!

Something IS amucK!~

First, I upgraded the drivers for the Wacom. No change. Second, I upgraded GIMP.. to 2.4.2.. (There aren't 2.4.3 binaries for Windows yet). No change.
Then, I tried uprading GTK+.. from the installed 2.10.6... to 2.12. No Change.
Of course the tablet works fine in Photoshop and in Windows in general.

Needless to say.. this is sad. I have to run to the store, but I might try downgrading to an older GIMP...

I hope this helps someone. And I hope I find an answer!

Best regards!
-Sean
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Posted 08 January 2008 - 07:26 PM

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Then, I noticed that the cursor wasn't aligned right with the pointer.. in fact, they moved a slightly different speeds... YUCK!.. Then... the lockups. The cursor just locked up a few times. I alt-tabbed to another app... and it worked!

The same thing happens to me with my Wacom Bamboo. I now use PhotoShop, instead of the GIMP, because this is so annoying. (But I don't know what I'll do when my trial runs out.)
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Posted 10 January 2008 - 04:45 AM

Hey guys! I actually have a slightly different problem with my tablet than I've seen so far. I read the post about setting your tablet up with GIMP and I've read through all these posts, but haven't seen anyone else with this issue so far.

I'm on Windows XP using a Wacom CTE-430 and running GIMP 2.4.2

My brush sensitivity TECHNICALLY works but it's weird...it skips up sizes drastically, instead of keeping a continuous flow...like so:

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Anyone have any thoughts? I tried out my tablet in another program (Macromedia Flash) and it works smooth as butter there.

I'd appreciate any feedback. Thanks muchly!

~marji
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Posted 13 January 2008 - 03:37 PM

I don't really have much to contribute, but I also am having the same problems when raising you pen off of the tablet using GIMP.

For the record, I am using a Wacom Bamboo tablet with Windows XP SP 2 using the latest versions and drivers. I have tried downgrading GIMP, but only back to version 2.2.17.

In any event, it seems to be a known problem that will hopefully eventually have a known solution and I guess I'm going to wait it out since everything I'm capable of doing (downloading older versions of things) would have already been tried before.
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Posted 14 January 2008 - 05:14 AM

I also had problems with my Graphire4 and GIMP when I used the version 5 Windows drivers from Wacom's site. It would freeze and refuse to move if I switch between stylus and eraser or if I lifted the pen up. Using the last version 4 driver fixed it. Unfortunately for the Bamboo users, you have only the version 5 drivers. Is it possible that the version 4 drivers would work with your tablets as well?

When I get Visual C++ installed again, I might try running my own tablet painting program and see if the drivers cause problems with that. Maybe the Wacom API has changed.
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Posted 15 January 2008 - 06:44 PM

On installing the 4.97-6 drivers from the Graphire set:
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At which point it proceeded to work, but with no pressure sensitivity or point/eraser differentiation. Not that I was expecting results. I'm actually surprised the tablet continued to respond at all.
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Posted 30 January 2008 - 10:43 AM

Hi guys i plan to buy this:

http://www.amazon.com/dp/B000V9T2JA?smi ... nkCode=asn

will it work with gimp?

if not can you recommend one that will, fairly inexspensive
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Posted 01 February 2008 - 08:47 PM

Just tested my Wacom Graphire tablet with GIMP 2.4.4 on Vista. When the tablet's pressure sensitivity and eraser are enabled, the pointer still locks up when I move the pointer between windows or change tools, but for a shorter period compared to 2.4.2. When I draw within a window, the pointer tracks the stylus OK.

In conclusion, the Wacom interface works better than in 2.4.2 but it's still unusable; I still have to turn off advanced features using the "--no-wintab" option.
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