[OvertheWolf]

I never realized that I had to actually do something to make my tablet work properly in GIMP until yesterday when I realized that just maybe it wasn't working like it was supposed to. So I found this tutorial and attempted to follow it only to realize that, under "Configure Extended Input Devices" I don't have the options that I should. I have "WACOM Tablet Pressure Stylus" and "WACOM Tablet Eraser". So I found the latest driver for my tablet (Bamboo Fun, btw), got the newest version of GIMP (2.6.7) and tried again. But now it either says that I have no devices (if I open the program with my mouse) or I have the same options but I still can't use my pen (if I open the program with my tablet).

I uninstalled GIMP and the tablet, reinstalled them, still didn't work, repeated the procedure and now I have the driver that came with my disc: v. 5.03 and I don't want to download anything because trying to do this has wrecked a lot.

What on earth is wrong with my program?!

Wacom Bamboo Fun
Windows Vista
Gimp 2.6.7
Pen tablet driver v. 5.03

[Griatch]

@Overthewolf

I'm not sure why you thought you didn't have the options you should. If you used to have "WACOM Tablet Pressure Stylus" and "WACOM Tablet Eraser" in extended devices (that is the pen tip and the pen eraser; the exact names vary between tablet models), that should be just fine - a Bamboo has no other devices on it. What was wrong with your pen before, didn't it work as it should?

Anyway, seeing no devices at all is usually a sign of some sort of incompatability between GIMP and the tablet driver. Usually I do recommend installing the latest stuff of everything; but in this case it seems you already did that. Since you already had a working setup (it seems), it might be worth to try the versions and variations you had working before.
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[rkuba]

re: Tablet does not appear in Extended devices in Gimp
Platform : Windows XP (32bit), windows 7 (64bit)
GIMP: at least several 2.6.x (32bit) and 2.6.6 (64bit)
Tablet&Driver: Wacom bamboo (for W7 it is fresh PenTablet_520-7a, but for XP I used other 5.xxxx) on USB
Description: I know it for a long time- my workaround is to INITIALISE the tablet from another application (now I use PaintshopPro XI) and than GIMP sees the tablet and all works fine (until reboot).

BTW: I can not see DirectX device (although Dx11 is with W7 installed by default) and this does not heart me.


My conclusion is GIMP DOES NOT initialise Wacom Bamboo tablet properly
(I'd appreciate if someone logs a bug with gimp- I do not know how to do it).

regards
rkuba

[thelackey3326]

I stumbled across this thread while trying to set up my Wacom Bamboo Pen & Touch tablet in Gimp 2.6.7 on Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit (x64).

For those having problems with their Pen & Touch not being recognized as an Extended Input Device (you may be seeing the "No extended input devices" dialog), try starting Gimp with the pen instead of the mouse or touch pad, making sure the tablet is detecting the pen while it's starting up. My device has a white LED that changes to amber when it detects the pen. This has worked every time for me so far.

-Dean

[Griatch]

thelackey3326 said:

I stumbled across this thread while trying to set up my Wacom Bamboo Pen & Touch tablet in Gimp 2.6.7 on Windows Vista Home Premium 64-bit (x64).

For those having problems with their Pen & Touch not being recognized as an Extended Input Device (you may be seeing the "No extended input devices" dialog), try starting Gimp with the pen instead of the mouse or touch pad, making sure the tablet is detecting the pen while it's starting up. My device has a white LED that changes to amber when it detects the pen. This has worked every time for me so far.

-Dean

Interesting, I'll add that as a suggestion at the top. Thanks.
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[morganimal]

More tablet trouble here. This time possibly related to BUG#593525. I am using Windows XP. When I first started Gimp it drew all the lines several hundred pixels to the left of where the cursor was. Oddly this only happened with the tablet, using a mouse the lines appeared where they were supposed to. I opened the "configure extended input devices" and changed that to window mode rather then screen mode.

Now I have two cursors, a mouse cursor that shows me where the mouse is, and a cross hair that shows me where gimp will draw when I touch the pen to the tablet. I see no way to convince Gimp to draw where the mouse cursor is. I have seen this issue mentioned before in the forums, but never saw a solution for it.

Paint.net, MSPaint, Windows and Firefox all work with no offset, Gimp is the only program that 'misses'. Does anyone have a work around? This was the word from the devs:

Martin Nordholts [GIMP developer] 2009-09-19 14:57:08 UTC

If this bother you, feel free to provide a patch. Personally I have more
important things to work on and I suspect that's how the other core devs
reasons too.

[PhotoComix]

well could seems a not too polite reply but may be well more a problem of drivers or wrong settings then of the gimp core

Did you read the guide and you already looked if in the other messages here there is a fix that may work for you. :?:

[jolie]

If I set my mode to window rather then screen I get the same thing.

I think your best bet is to read the first post and try the fix mentioned there. With the mode set to screen in preferences.

About Martin's reply on one side I know how frustrating it can be to get complaints when you have been working so hard to get it right, for free. But that's no reason to be rude.
But then again I don't know what the message sounded like that you send and Martin replied to. So I won't judge.
That said, the GIMP team could do with some more customer service skills. ;)

[PhotoComix]

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That said, the GIMP team could do with some more customer service skills. ;)

The skill of gimp team is to develop , and that may not include skills time and patience for customer service
Basically Hep forum as this are created to offer more "customer service"

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..But that's no reason to be rude.

No but even if developer and final win user may believe to use the same language to communicate as English , they are just talking 2 totally different languages

Ask help to a dev without say for which version you refer, on which OS ,quote error message as "error said something as- error in line bla bla and so .on -"
... then good chances to irritate who is supposed to reply

while the reply "If this bother you, feel free to provide a patch" seems rude but is just the standard Linux geek reply ,almost a automatism
More: collaboration has to be in 2 senses but ( as fact )contributions from windows user are less then minimal

@morganimal

what i wrote above is not in any way connected with you, i did not read your original message, i don't even know if you use win mac or linux
i just wrote of a general problem, a big problem even here on GT

[jolie]

PhotoComix said:

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That said, the GIMP team could do with some more customer service skills. ;)

The skill of gimp team is to develop , and that may not include skills time and patience for customer service
Basically Hep forum as this are created to offer more "customer service"

And that's why I made that comment. :)

But that's not the reason why I came back to this thread.

I just figured out why my previous problem was solved so mysteriously. GIMP recognised the tabled as just a mouse. There was no pressure support anymore.

The pointer was way off as well but I managed to solve it. So I thought I'd share my experiences.
Went to edit - preferences
input devices - input controllers
Under active controllers removed DirectX DirectInput
Then closed gimp, opened gimp and put DirectX back and it worked again.

[morganimal]

I have tried all the ideas posted in this thread. It appears to be related to the way that Gimp and Inkscape handles widgets and tablets, removing the rulers reduces the offset by the width of the ruler. I have the newest driver for my tablet and it is detected properly, however the offset makes it imposable to use as a long term drawing app. I found an identical bug posted on the inkscape bug reporting list, ( https://bugs.launchp...ape/+bug/422245 ) no solution appears immanent as it may be a bug with GTK+.

Clearly many people are using tablets with Gimp, so it may indeed be a driver incompatibility, the odd thing is that the tablet is responding correctly, it's just drawing in the wrong spot. Many other people posting in this thread were having trouble getting the device to be seen, that is not my problem. All the other non-Gimp/Inkscape programs work flawlessly.

I'm hoping someone has a solution for this bug, I'm using paint.net at the moment and may buy Photoshop if I can't get Gimp working. Thank You for your time.

[anonymous user]

I an running Vista and GIMP version 2.6.7. on a lenovo x61 tablet. My problem is that Gimp does not recognize my stylus in tablet mode as a stylus. (if that makes any sense.) Basically it works like a mouse would, meaning that pressing harder or softer does nothing. I've tried the "configure input devices" fix, but it doesn't help. :cry:
the stylus works fine in other programs, so this is a software problem.

Any help will be appreciated. :)

Edit: I'm sorry if I put this in the wrong place, but I didn't want to start my own thread.

[Griatch]

@anonymous user

I think some laptops, like the x61 actually have a Wacom input screen. Are you sure you are supposed to have pressure levels? Most laptop tablets don't have that, they use the pressure level purely as a binary on-off thing.

I have never tried to use a tablet pc with GIMP, but I see on the Linux Wacom homepage that they are supported (not that it will help you on Windows). Assuming you have done all the usual (latest versions of drivers, programs etc, gone through the suggestions as it seem you have), you probably have to file a bug against GTK+ (Gimp does not handle tablets on its own, it's GTK+ that does that). I imagine that relatively few developers have that type of laptop so it's not hard to imagine eventual problems going unnoticed.
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[Griatch]

morganimal said:

I have tried all the ideas posted in this thread. It appears to be related to the way that Gimp and Inkscape handles widgets and tablets, removing the rulers reduces the offset by the width of the ruler. I have the newest driver for my tablet and it is detected properly, however the offset makes it imposable to use as a long term drawing app. I found an identical bug posted on the inkscape bug reporting list, ( https://bugs.launchp...ape/+bug/422245 ) no solution appears immanent as it may be a bug with GTK+.

Clearly many people are using tablets with Gimp, so it may indeed be a driver incompatibility, the odd thing is that the tablet is responding correctly, it's just drawing in the wrong spot. Many other people posting in this thread were having trouble getting the device to be seen, that is not my problem. All the other non-Gimp/Inkscape programs work flawlessly.

I'm hoping someone has a solution for this bug, I'm using paint.net at the moment and may buy Photoshop if I can't get Gimp working. Thank You for your time.

You don't list the things you have tried, but the most obvious fix for this is to change the tablet mode from Screen to Windows in Preferences (or vice versa). This is the cause of 90% of all weird pointer offsets.
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[anonymous user]

@Griatch

Thanks for the help. It's probably a bug actually, because my computer *is* pressure sensitive with other applications. But thanks for the help, I'll go file a report now.

[Jaz]

Very helpful

[thebraino]

First, thanks Griatch for the tutorial for the setup, it worked out just fine!
Until: I changed my pen's shortcut keys.
Yesterday, I setup it up so the front botton was a right click, and the back side of it was a middle click, which worked out fine. Today, I changed the Wacom preferences for the Gimp application from that to: front button= Pressure Hold, Back button 'Ctrl'; but the original 'Right click' and 'Middle click' are what actually happen in Gimp.
Any suggestions?

Ah, and I'm using Windows XP with CintiqWX

[edit]
Just tried changing the master settings, and it still doesn't change
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[Griatch]

@thebraino

Alas, as far as I know, the mouse buttons are hard-coded in GIMP and not something you can change or reassign.
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[Oregonian]

I finally have my Bamboo Fun tablet working in GIMP. I still will probably need to do some tweaking though. Found out that using Screen in the configuration for everything except pad (disabled that) worked best for me. The stylus cursor and gimp's brush cursor are together rather than way far apart.

It's going to take me awhile just to get used to using it. MyPaint is nice just for painting with it. :mrgreen:

[mahvin]

I am absolutely thrilled to find this forum topic after much searching and talking with Wacom techs regarding pen behavior in GIMP. I was pitching fits when my pen decided to act up in GIMP. Flipping from nib to eraser seemed to confuse the program and caused it to react rather, well, "confused". Alignment issues, etc. Pressure sensitivity issues, etc.

Then I read on Griatch's post, more like a much needed refresher, especially when things work well for so long you totally forget how to update and reset the core settings. The beauty of Griatch's information is that I learned something in addition to resetting my pen and tablet - assigning other GIMP functions to my pen, woot! Man, I can't tell ya how excited I was to read that.

Thanks Griatch! Much appreciated topic!